Hello, I just thought I would privately introduce myself considering I am new here and it’s the polite thing to do. I am Sobek6 and having been introduced to the wikia by a fellow player from my Disney Villains Victorious tabletop game, I must say I am very impressed by what I have seen here. I must commend you and your fellow members of the board, you are a credit to the fandom.
I'm trying to think of a suitable effect for Bill Toddman's 'Penny Ante' Board, a canon artifact. Maybe it plays the Penny Ante Game with others, but steals people's pennies until they only have one left?
Hey, I was thinking about an artifact, dewi sri's crown, and how it connects to warehouse 6 section srauv. This artifact was created by a priest from indonesia and became an artifact. Rumors from japan soonly spread to the khmer about a large supply in indonesia. So the warehouse got involved and collected the artifact and was the 6th artifact collected by the warehouse. The builders thought about the section that could connect to this artifact so, they built a vault that could contain this artifact. The walls were decorated with statues and carving of dieties that ruled over rice and the pedestal was the goddess and looked like she was wearing it. Finally, I just want permission to create this artifact and now in days it is in the origin circle. Please create this artifact or let me create it but, if you do not like i understand. Also look at WH 7 & WH 8 please.
Sorry, but I tried my best, so basically I wish to create Dewi Sri's crown which grows plants faster than normal and makes rice POP up out of no where. Also this artifact was collected by warehouse 6 and the rice dieties calmed the artifact( almost put in a sleeping state ).
Viracocha, could you please hold off on the page edits. I can't understand half of it due to the unclear grammar, nor do I remember you asking anyone about these changes. This is a communal project, which means we decide upon most things as a community.
Hey, I just think and it happens you can block me for week and the grammar is do to my slow keyboard. I know I should have asked but I talked about it, on WH 8 there was a grammar mistake and I did not even touch that page until today. For some reason I tried to reply and the page would not let me for some reason.
Ok Hapi. it's not that your ideas are bad, strickly speaking, but they lack refinement. I think the grammar may be because English isn't your first language (I hope. If it is, you really need practice).
See, that one sentance was already an (odd) improvement. I'll go over what you've added later and see what I can make out of it. I'm sure most of it is fine, it just needs to be reworded slightly to fit the style.
Maybe if I mention this here, I can get the ball rolling. I added a comment to Draco's "Holy Grail" page, the Chalice of Dionysus. I think you agree with me that this is probably not the Holy Grail. I asked Draco, but my comment appears to be ignored, so I'm not sure whether he just doesn't care or if he is annoyed by it.
That being said, would it be alright if I pitch/make an appropriate "Holy Grail" artifact using the Celtic origin as I mentioned in the comments?
There are, to possibly someone's surprise, two artifacts which could be considered "The Holy Grail". The first is one that did not survive collection. It is known as the Cauldron of Rebirth, associated with the Welsh goddess Ceridwen. It had the ability to "restore" life to the dead, though it merely reanimated dead soldiers, who were unable to speak or do anything but fight. During a confrontation to collect this artifact during the time of the Hunnic Empire, around 440 AD, the artifact ended up getting destroyed by the same soldiers it reanimated.
The other artifact, which survived to be collected, is the Cauldron of Annwn. It formed based on the legends of the land of Annwn, in the Otherworld, in which the land was free of disease and is a land of eternal youth, where food was abundant. The artifact has the ability to completely restore a person's health, healing all illnesses and reversing a person's age by a few years, as well as removing deathly hunger and thirst. However, this incredible healing ability comes with a critical downside: It can only be used once on a person, and their immediate family (parents, offspring) are unable to use it. Attempting to use it a second time will result in immediate death by apparent disease. It made its way from Ireland over to England, before reaching Europe in the 1200s. After inspiring the initial legends of the Holy Grail for Christianity, it was found by the Church, who came to accept it as a gift from God. It ended up being part of the Seventh and Eighth Cruscades, when King Louis IX brought it with him in the hopes of increasing his success by using a holy artifact. However, after his death (he had previously used the Grail in the Seventh Cruscade to recover from an injury), it fell into the hands of merchants, who ended up bringing it over to the Byzantine Empire, where it slowly made its way back into Europe and the Holy Roman Empire, where it was collected by Warehouse 8 in 1293.
Yeah, the second was eventually turned into a chalice cup. While in the hands of the merchants, they heard the increasing tales of the Holy Grail. Aware of the artifact's properties, they believed that it would sell for more if they made it into a traditional chalice cup. And they weren't wrong, of course. I can't imagine what someone would pay for the "real" Holy Grail.
Thanks! I saw both in my research, and I thought both sounded pretty Grail-like. But when it comes right down to it, only one really survived long enough to become the "Holy Grail" of legend. So is it alright to make them?
So, Sarah has been brainstorming a few story ideas, and she wanted me to ask about a few artifacts relating to fandoms. I have worked and adjusted their origin to make them as good as they can be, so I wanted to ask you about them before proceeding:
Black Butler artifacts (bifurcated)- Sebastian's Butler Pin: Gives user demonic speed, strength, and senses. Downsides: Will make user obey the Eyepatch wearer's commands without question. Ciel Phantomhive's Eyepatch: Increased crime solving and acting skills. Downsides: PTSD from death of parents and cult slavery.
Her story idea involving these is actually intriguing. It's a Pete/Myka story, and it involves a place in England where strange occurances are pinging in the Warehouse system. However, what makes this case difficult is that the people in the house are collectors of the Victorian era, and they have unknowingly collected many dozens of artifacts (not all of them active at once). Without knowing which artifact(s) caused the original ping, it's a process of elimination to determine which artifact is causing the trouble.
Ernest Renan's What is a Nation?: My recommendation for her wish to have a "Hetalia" artifact, which I didn't think was large enough by itself to have an artifact. However, the book is based on his idea: "A nation is a soul, a spiritual principle. Two things, which in truth are but one, constitute this soul or spiritual principle. One lies in the past, one in the present. One is the possession in common of a rich legacy of memories; the other is present-day consent, the desire to live together, the will to perpetuate the value of the heritage that one has received in an undivided form". When the book is read, it turns the reader into a stereotypical representation of their country of origin. The personalities she wants to use are (mostly) based on their characters in Hetalia, as figured below:
America: Obsession with fast food and being a hero.
England: User will become more polite and drink more tea over time. They will also become more skilled at making tea.
Germany: User will become stronger and more obsessed with working out. (The more the user works out, the more s/he becomes stronger and more obsessed with working out.)
Italy: Obsession with pasta. User will also become more creative, especially in the fields of painting and sketching.
Japan: User will become more curious of other cultures. However, user will need time to adjust to other people due to not knowing much about the outside world.
France: User will become more skilled at romance and flirting. Due to this, he or she may flirt more often then normal.
I think this falls into a catergory of an artifct being too powerful without a significant origin. Fandom artifacts are difficult and need to be very well balanced. Thr only one we have atm that can get away with significant power like that it the Pokeball replica, and that's because it;s one of the biggest gaming/anime/merch franchises on earth,
As far as the Black Butler idea goes... eh. I don't know how you qualify speed, strength, or senses to be "demonic," nor do I particularly enjoy the idea that an artifact is going cause "PTSD from death of parents and cult slavery."
The book is better, but it fails when you consider that every country, and ever person, has their own stereotypes of other countries from shared history, so it can't really work.
Hmmmm . . . . Perhaps there's a way to limit the overall power of the Black Butler artifact? Although if it's older than the manga, then it's a matter of finding an origin that better suits it (since at that point it wouldn't technically be fandom-related). Or adjust the effects to something similar that can be the basis for the series (assuming a change in origin).
As far as Scalec's point, what if the artifact takes the stereotypical view of the reader as the basis for the appearance? And perhaps making it so that it doesn't activate in the person's home country? The purpose of having it activate in a different country aside from the reader's own is so that, assuming they don't have a default opinion to go on, they have a chance to observe the people of the other country and form their opinions of them.
Since it came up on Nate's discussion, I was thinking we need a more concrete way of identifying where an artifact originated. The idea I've been mulling on all night is that if an artifact is a movie prop, screen used, it should be categorised by the name of the movie. Imn this way Ash Cambell's Chainsaw would become "Evil Dead" Chainsaw, with a more detailed description on the page proper should it not be obvious enough.
If an artifact is fan made, it should say somewhere that it is a replica, either as Replica Pokeball, Pokeball replica or even, and in my opinion more suitably Pokeball (replica). Anything else can be played by ear as it comes, and these are just my thoughts on the matter. You're the convention aisle master, what do you think?
On an unrelated note, what do you want to do about Old Bone? I want to continue the Once Upon a Warehouse story soon and he features quite a bit, but he hasn't even been mentioned recently and I was wondering if you wanted him written out or altered in any way before I continue.
Sounds good. And I fixed OB's origin story forever ago, dude. He's fine. We just aren't using the Viking thrall like we did in the original RP. If he's not being mentioned, then he's just patrolling Origin Circle, and nothing much is goin on in there, aside from a few god relics emitting a little buzzing energy from the attention gained fromSmite, Riordan, and neo-pagan worship.
On the subject of props, I think they should be named for the movie they appeared in ONLY if the prop was not an object belonging to a character. The show has "Dona Fausta's Brooch", not "Savage Seduction Brooch" or "(Actress' Name)'s Brooch."
@Scalec, this also applies to "Fess Parker/Davy Crockett's Cap".
So, if, for example, we made a prop from the movie "Space Jam" into an artifact, it would depend on whether or not it was used by an actor/tress or not? Michael Jordan's Tune Squad Jersey verses Basketball from Space Jam, correct?
Hey Ankh, I would like permission to add sections to WH 7? Oh another thing please, please do not block me please. Oh I would like to put my office next to the ancient archives and the rod of asclepius moved there and the aztec bloodstone.
Ok, you're right no one will be able to reconstruct the palanquin. Cutting down on artifacts is a great idea! Oh, are you like the person that ideas have to go through and on a side note I recrated the warehouse in minecraft then I had to delete them because of data.
Hey, I know Sarah is still under probation, but would you mind if I used her for the next story of my Sailor Moon arc? Garr suggested I ask you and Draco first to make sure it's alright. I can give you my reasons, if you'd like, for using her. I can come up with something else if it's not okay, but I'd rather use her if I can.
One other thing. She had an idea to make an artifact that is based on the anime "Hetalia", something that would create stereotypical apparitions of countries when placed on a government building in the country's capital. I know you want to limit the number of Fandom artifact, and I'm not sure how big this fandom is, but I was wondering if it would be fine if it was an older artifact? Perhaps it even led to the inspiration for the anime?
Hetalia is... around the size of Homestuck. Often, when personified, the two fandom are considered Morails, the <> quadrent.
An older artifact would be best. Introducing the Hetalia fandom to the convention Aisle with a fandom-made artifact would be... bad. Like remember when the aisle nearly BLEW UP when Sarah's character was tending to it? multiply that by... oh, let's go with five.
As a side question: (this applies both to the current story and yours), I'm trying to come up with artifacts from fandoms that would be moderately to severely dangerous. I'm not incredibly familiar with fandom in general, so I thought you might have some ideas. I'm really only looking for two more for Sarah's part, and chances are they might end up in yours as well, but I thought you might be able to come up with some more ideas that would be alright.
Let me rephrase: I'm looking for artifacts more along the lines of Carlo Collodi's Bracelet or the Baylor Dodgeball by themselves. Things that could cause massive/severe trouble if used, and probably affect the user in some way.
Sarah recommended the Death Note and Attack on Titan animes. I hear a lot about the latter, so I assume it's pretty popular. I'm not sure about Death Note, though. Hmmmm . . . . What if we had artifacts which could be connected to a fandom, but are not actually from it? The Superhero Aisle in the show had several tags that, when you read the Province, shows that they aren't related to the show at all. After all, if it seems related to the show, one might assume it's from the fandom, even if it's not.
Attack on Titan artifact... that would BLOW the Warehouse's Masquerade WIDE open! We would NEED the Masquerade reinforcer artifact just to contain it-and we still haven't made one.
As for the Death Note... the artfact would be a simple notebook. If you write a person' name on it, along with a cause of death and time of death, they will die how and when you specify. Otherwise, they die on the spot of a cardiac arrest. Leads to a corrupted sense of justice and vigilantism.
Turning oneself into a man-eating giant, or conjuring a 15m tall wall around a city. You can't exactly HIDE either of those or explain them away. AoT uses BLOOD like other animes use cherry blossom petals!
I thought of a couple more anime/manga I'd like to ask about and get your opinion on, if you don't mind. What about Black Butler (or an artifact that one could connect to it)? Doesn't it involve some kind of demon butler figure? Naruto and Dragonball are pretty popular as well, I think. There's also Bleach, which I believe only ended a short time ago (It's a very long manga, from what I've heard). Perhaps there's artifacts from or related to them?